mxh72c
07-11 07:26 AM
This bulletin does prove that very few labor certificaions were done in 2005, due to move to PERM.
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belmontboy
09-01 07:03 PM
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Mind what you say in an open forum.
These type of information can fuel anti's cause.
Job requirements "exist" in the company.
They are not created by employers or lawyers for the sake of GC.
Mind what you say in an open forum.
These type of information can fuel anti's cause.
Job requirements "exist" in the company.
They are not created by employers or lawyers for the sake of GC.
nk2006
10-21 03:30 PM
Though the denial of this MTR is against the law by USCIS, one must consider following.
AC21 is a benefit for a long delayed adjustment of status applicant to change the employer before getting GC. This law was framed based on the fact that the employee working for a long period of time with sponser (either in non-immigrant visa or in EAD) and cannot change the job because of prolonged delay in approval of 485. However, one must remember that, the fundamental priciple of granting GC is based on the fact that intent of the employee working "permanetly" or some longer period of time for the sponser. If the employer can demonstrate successfully to the USCIS that the employee does not having the intent then USCIS may deny the 485. If one resigns just immediatly after the 180 days, it doubts the legitimacy of the intent. If employer argues that the employee was waiting just for 180 days and using the law to change the job, there is a reason for USCIS to belive the employer's claim about false intent of the emploee. But one can overrule this denial in court, if the employee demonstrates that he/she worked for the sponsor for a considerable period of time before and after filing 485, to prove his/her intent.
How can USCIS can judge the legitimacy of the intent of the applicant - it can be very subjective and depend a lot on the way visa officer interprets. For example how long after six months is considered a "long wait"?
There will be always some descretionary powers to visa adjudicators but AC21 guidelines and associated memo's are detailed enough to give a clear explanation that once I485 is pending for six months, the applicants underlying I140 is valid (if its revoked or if it is not yet approved) and I485 continue to be processed - as long as the new job is same or similar. One thing that is not clear is the definitions of this same/similar job thing. We all expected some hiccups based on this interpretation. But the rejection of I485 (and subsequent MTR) based on I140 revocation is something that came out of blue and the number of these cases makes it really scary.
AC21 is a benefit for a long delayed adjustment of status applicant to change the employer before getting GC. This law was framed based on the fact that the employee working for a long period of time with sponser (either in non-immigrant visa or in EAD) and cannot change the job because of prolonged delay in approval of 485. However, one must remember that, the fundamental priciple of granting GC is based on the fact that intent of the employee working "permanetly" or some longer period of time for the sponser. If the employer can demonstrate successfully to the USCIS that the employee does not having the intent then USCIS may deny the 485. If one resigns just immediatly after the 180 days, it doubts the legitimacy of the intent. If employer argues that the employee was waiting just for 180 days and using the law to change the job, there is a reason for USCIS to belive the employer's claim about false intent of the emploee. But one can overrule this denial in court, if the employee demonstrates that he/she worked for the sponsor for a considerable period of time before and after filing 485, to prove his/her intent.
How can USCIS can judge the legitimacy of the intent of the applicant - it can be very subjective and depend a lot on the way visa officer interprets. For example how long after six months is considered a "long wait"?
There will be always some descretionary powers to visa adjudicators but AC21 guidelines and associated memo's are detailed enough to give a clear explanation that once I485 is pending for six months, the applicants underlying I140 is valid (if its revoked or if it is not yet approved) and I485 continue to be processed - as long as the new job is same or similar. One thing that is not clear is the definitions of this same/similar job thing. We all expected some hiccups based on this interpretation. But the rejection of I485 (and subsequent MTR) based on I140 revocation is something that came out of blue and the number of these cases makes it really scary.
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Gravitation
09-29 01:30 AM
2009 is VERY OPTIMISTIC. Why would a new administration take up "touchy" issue like immigration in its 1st year (2009)? Least we can expect is 2010 IF NOTHING HAPPENS BY MID NOVEMBER - Congress goes to recess for the year.The window of opportunity is short!
2010 is again an election year. As they say, things happen in DC only in "odd" years. It could be 2009, 2011, 2013... who knows.
If I don't get my GC till 2015... I'm really gonna do something about it!! There's a limit to everything, damn it.:mad:
Gravitation
PS: Disclaimer: for the simple minded ones: my last sentence is sarcastic humor... not a reality... clarifying further... because, I'm already active... not because I'm not gonna do anything even in 2015. Amen.
2010 is again an election year. As they say, things happen in DC only in "odd" years. It could be 2009, 2011, 2013... who knows.
If I don't get my GC till 2015... I'm really gonna do something about it!! There's a limit to everything, damn it.:mad:
Gravitation
PS: Disclaimer: for the simple minded ones: my last sentence is sarcastic humor... not a reality... clarifying further... because, I'm already active... not because I'm not gonna do anything even in 2015. Amen.
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pappu
09-01 09:17 AM
Everyone getting receipt notices, and not coming to the rally, (not coming to the rally -most on tracker threads), please at least consider contributing to the rally once you get your notice or FP done or get EAD!. The rally cost is huge and we can do much more if people can contribute generously.
We helped you get to the stage so that everyone can file I485s. It pains us in the core team see how our members who used to tell us all the time to at least allow them to file I485 and then they will wholeheartedly take part and support IV have turned their backs on us now. With our work and victory in Visa bulletin fiasco, we even answered people who used to ask us for our achievements before they could contribute.
Now it is your opportunity to deliver.
We helped you get to the stage so that everyone can file I485s. It pains us in the core team see how our members who used to tell us all the time to at least allow them to file I485 and then they will wholeheartedly take part and support IV have turned their backs on us now. With our work and victory in Visa bulletin fiasco, we even answered people who used to ask us for our achievements before they could contribute.
Now it is your opportunity to deliver.
ganguteli
03-06 04:02 PM
Congrats everyone getting soft LUDs
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mhathi
09-12 05:30 PM
I will send emails tonight and tomorrow noght .. probably all through monday. Any particular group I should focus on? I am planning to complete all by monday night.
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Imigrait
03-11 06:24 PM
Wife has already received AP. I'm still waiting!:mad:
Saw a soft LUD on my case today.:confused:
Saw a soft LUD on my case today.:confused:
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Prasad_FL
09-09 06:36 PM
I have sent $100 thru paypal today. I had contributed $100 for the rally in August also.
Pals, Please make our event successful with your generous contributions. IV is taking care of all other pains. At least we can do our part by contributions.
Pals, Please make our event successful with your generous contributions. IV is taking care of all other pains. At least we can do our part by contributions.
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eb3_nepa
04-25 01:04 PM
So what happens to people who already have a PD based on the labor(LC) date?
I dont want to go a step back in the line just cuz someone who had been lethargic all his life just woke up on his last day of his 6th year and goes "Ohh you know what I think I might be interested in a GC" ,when I had planned or had the *intent* to apply for a GC a few years before by applying for LC.
I agree. Also it will be a MONUMENTAL fiasco at the UCSIS and DOL. How do we forsee changing existing applicants' PDs. That will be atleast a 4-6 month backlog and i am being optimistic here.
I dont want to go a step back in the line just cuz someone who had been lethargic all his life just woke up on his last day of his 6th year and goes "Ohh you know what I think I might be interested in a GC" ,when I had planned or had the *intent* to apply for a GC a few years before by applying for LC.
I agree. Also it will be a MONUMENTAL fiasco at the UCSIS and DOL. How do we forsee changing existing applicants' PDs. That will be atleast a 4-6 month backlog and i am being optimistic here.
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ronhira
07-06 02:04 AM
lahiribaba - you are my hero. this is the best idea yaar :D
Instead of hiring a full time lobbyist why dont we hire a full time manager who will contact IV members and drive funding drives , organize campaigns , send and spam USCIS with emails flowers and faxes and keep it moving. Heck may be we can even offshore and outsource it. Take a look at YourManInIndia (http://www.yourmaninindia.com/) . At 7$ per hour this wont take much. Lets take the help of our brothers and sisters in Inda to get GC .. let them help us while we help them..
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But we're never gonna survive, unless...
We get a little crazy
No we're never gonna survive, unless...
We are a little...
Crazy...crazy...crazy...
~~~~~~~ Seal ~~~~~~~~~~
Instead of hiring a full time lobbyist why dont we hire a full time manager who will contact IV members and drive funding drives , organize campaigns , send and spam USCIS with emails flowers and faxes and keep it moving. Heck may be we can even offshore and outsource it. Take a look at YourManInIndia (http://www.yourmaninindia.com/) . At 7$ per hour this wont take much. Lets take the help of our brothers and sisters in Inda to get GC .. let them help us while we help them..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But we're never gonna survive, unless...
We get a little crazy
No we're never gonna survive, unless...
We are a little...
Crazy...crazy...crazy...
~~~~~~~ Seal ~~~~~~~~~~
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McLuvin
12-10 04:16 PM
Nothing new at all in this bulletin....
we have company !!!! - They are Projecting and we use to Predict :)
We need not start threads like... Predict Jan 2010 Bulletin and win 50$... these guys are doing the prediction/projection for us...
I thought we were the only bunch of loosers... :D
BR
we have company !!!! - They are Projecting and we use to Predict :)
We need not start threads like... Predict Jan 2010 Bulletin and win 50$... these guys are doing the prediction/projection for us...
I thought we were the only bunch of loosers... :D
BR
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innervoice
05-15 08:30 AM
How long a person can continue to work on EAD if he gets a denial notice.
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05-27 02:03 PM
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la6470
02-25 12:28 AM
Immigrating legally to the U.S seemed like a gold opportunity when I was offered to work here six years ago with an H1B visa. As a matter of fact, all my friends and family considered that it would have been crazy not to take advantage of the "opportunity" to live and work in the most developed country on Earth.
It's been six long years of challenges and learning experiences, but mostly it's been six years of financial distress, anxiety, paralysis and uncertainty.
We applied for PR four years ago, but in the process my wife and I have eaten all our saving in lawyer fees - and at this point we're just one more number in the long list of EB3 applicants who don't have the remotest idea of when visa numbers will become available so we can have a normal life. I don't even consider traveling to my country cause I don't have the money to pay for APs for me and my wife. My career has been also frozen since I cant take promotions to higher positions that will fall off the job description stated in my PERM.
If I had known about this ordeal, I would have never come to the US. I would have looked for other options, in countries that have a more sincere and generous immigration policies instead. If the US is not interested in allowing people to legally immigrate through visas based on employment, they simply should eliminate these visas and make clear that they don't want us to stay. Wouldn't that be easy for everyone?
I would return to my country if we didn't have a nasty political turmoil and the social decay that comes with it. Yet, I feel that the days go by and our lives are entangled in this absurd situation.
Dont worry - another 50 to 60 years and then it will be dust to dust and ashes to ashes. BTW did you visit Grand Canyon or Death Valley?
It's been six long years of challenges and learning experiences, but mostly it's been six years of financial distress, anxiety, paralysis and uncertainty.
We applied for PR four years ago, but in the process my wife and I have eaten all our saving in lawyer fees - and at this point we're just one more number in the long list of EB3 applicants who don't have the remotest idea of when visa numbers will become available so we can have a normal life. I don't even consider traveling to my country cause I don't have the money to pay for APs for me and my wife. My career has been also frozen since I cant take promotions to higher positions that will fall off the job description stated in my PERM.
If I had known about this ordeal, I would have never come to the US. I would have looked for other options, in countries that have a more sincere and generous immigration policies instead. If the US is not interested in allowing people to legally immigrate through visas based on employment, they simply should eliminate these visas and make clear that they don't want us to stay. Wouldn't that be easy for everyone?
I would return to my country if we didn't have a nasty political turmoil and the social decay that comes with it. Yet, I feel that the days go by and our lives are entangled in this absurd situation.
Dont worry - another 50 to 60 years and then it will be dust to dust and ashes to ashes. BTW did you visit Grand Canyon or Death Valley?
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shreekhand
07-18 05:54 PM
I am not sure if the guy with PD 2001 will get the number first as against one with PD 2006 when everything is "C" in the example you presented.
Past data, experience from my acquaintances, official NSC statements as well the SOP clearly indicates the contrary.
priti8888, What is the USCIS 485 processing date in your senario?
Your Receive Date is a factor but PD is also a big factor, if limited number available.
If two person has submitted their application. One has PD 2001 and RD June 10 2007 and other had PD Jan 2006 with RD May 1 2006.
USCIS 485 Processing Date: June 15th 2007 and Visa Bullitin has "C"
Still PD with 2001 will get the the number first before PD 2006 case.
So
485 RD < USCIS 485 Processing date and PD < Visa Bulletin date
Order by PD desc
hope this help
Past data, experience from my acquaintances, official NSC statements as well the SOP clearly indicates the contrary.
priti8888, What is the USCIS 485 processing date in your senario?
Your Receive Date is a factor but PD is also a big factor, if limited number available.
If two person has submitted their application. One has PD 2001 and RD June 10 2007 and other had PD Jan 2006 with RD May 1 2006.
USCIS 485 Processing Date: June 15th 2007 and Visa Bullitin has "C"
Still PD with 2001 will get the the number first before PD 2006 case.
So
485 RD < USCIS 485 Processing date and PD < Visa Bulletin date
Order by PD desc
hope this help
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Jimi_Hendrix
11-20 09:49 PM
Got legal immigration?
Joe Adams holds on to his coffee cup while he anxiously reads the immigration news headlines on Google. The democrats have just won control in Washington and like all immigrants; Joe is hopeful that some immigration reform will emerge.
Joe, a native of United Kingdom first came to the United States in 1998. After graduating from Harvard Business School with an MBA he got his dream job in supply chain management. It was not long after that Joe’s company filed for his permanent residency. Life moved on and soon Joe and his wife Kathy had their first child. “The year was 2003” reminisces Joe, “I was really beginning to understand the U.S. immigration process. I was getting a handle on the numerous loops that lay ahead. It was soon apparent to me that immigration was no walk in the garden”.
Of the 940,000 legal immigrants in 2004, only 16% were skilled employment-based immigrants. About 40% of these skilled immigrants had advanced degrees, or 5 or more years of experience after a baccalaureate degree. The impact of these workers’ contributions to American competitiveness belies their small number. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn leads to greater productivity growth. Current immigration policy is abetting brain drain and forcing many of these immigrants to leave for countries like Canada and United Kingdom where skilled immigrants are given priority over undocumented and family-based immigrants.
Legal Immigration, Rewarding?
“Most importantly legal immigration has to be rewarding for legal residents and create a shining example for all other immigrants”, remarks Joe Adams. In the United States, all immigration reform for highly skilled immigrants is bundled with reform for undocumented workers. This phenomenon is representative of the apathy of U.S. immigration policy towards highly skilled legal immigrants. Many of them have advanced degrees in science and technology. They have trained and honed their skills while working in U.S. companies.
Currently permanent residency applications for skilled, employment based immigrants are backed 5-8 years. In the interim applicants are unable to change jobs, get promotions or make any major financial decisions. Highly skilled, legal immigrants need immigration reforms that will reduce massive process backlogs, improve processing by government agencies and better the quality of life while the application is pending.
Legal Immigration Myths
Extremist, anti-immigration advocacy groups have aggressively publicized myths about legal, skilled immigrants. Let us expound some of the common myths about employment based immigration.
Myth: Increasing green cards will enable more new immigrants to enter the country
Fact: Most immigrants who are caught in the employment-based immigration backlog have already spent 5-10 years in the United States. They have integrated socially and culturally. Companies have spent thousands of dollars on training these workers.
Myth: Employment based immigrants do not pay taxes and are a social burden
Fact: Employment based immigrants are required by law to file for federal and state tax returns each year. They pay social security taxes, medicare taxes, payroll taxes and all other applicable taxes. Employment based immigrants are not eligible to receive social security benefits unless their permanent residency applications are approved or unless they have worked in the U.S. for several years.
Myth: Employment based immigrants take away local jobs
Fact: Most progressive Americans realize that educated immigrant workers play a crucial role in stimulating the local economy. Highly skilled immigration fills the gaps in availability and makes the U.S. economy competitive and resilient. A recent study concludes that immigrants have fueled the US entrepreneurial economy, starting one in four venture-backed companies since 1990 and two in five in high technology. This is according to a study released by the National Venture Capital Association trade group to the U.S. Congress in November 2006.
Myth: H1B quota increase will result in more green cards
Fact: H1B has a separate quota from green card quotas. Even after an individual has approved security check, labor certification and employment eligibility; a visa number must be available for him to receive a green card. This quota is subject to annual numerical limits. Based on the current annual visa limit, applications are backlogged 6 years.
Future of Legal Immigration
It is presumed that legal immigration process works efficiently and in a clockwork fashion. However when you consider that legal applicants have to wait 5-8 years for a green card; this statement is false. In the current political environment pro and anti immigrant extremism exist side by side. A rational, middle of the road approach is largely missing. Such an approach would prioritize immigration based on the contribution of immigrants towards economic growth, the reduction of job outsourcing and most importantly rewarding those who chose to enter and continue to reside legally in USA.
Americans largely supports legal immigration. This year, the Secure Knowledge, Innovation and Leadership Bill was introduced in Senate and in the House of Representatives. This bill provides the much needed immigration reforms for highly skilled immigrants. However the democrat leadership has not yet declared immigration on their agenda for the first 100 hours of work. Unless congress collectively passes immigration relief for skilled workers, political considerations for the 2008 presidential elections will put this issue on the back burner again.
Joe Adams holds on to his coffee cup while he anxiously reads the immigration news headlines on Google. The democrats have just won control in Washington and like all immigrants; Joe is hopeful that some immigration reform will emerge.
Joe, a native of United Kingdom first came to the United States in 1998. After graduating from Harvard Business School with an MBA he got his dream job in supply chain management. It was not long after that Joe’s company filed for his permanent residency. Life moved on and soon Joe and his wife Kathy had their first child. “The year was 2003” reminisces Joe, “I was really beginning to understand the U.S. immigration process. I was getting a handle on the numerous loops that lay ahead. It was soon apparent to me that immigration was no walk in the garden”.
Of the 940,000 legal immigrants in 2004, only 16% were skilled employment-based immigrants. About 40% of these skilled immigrants had advanced degrees, or 5 or more years of experience after a baccalaureate degree. The impact of these workers’ contributions to American competitiveness belies their small number. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn leads to greater productivity growth. Current immigration policy is abetting brain drain and forcing many of these immigrants to leave for countries like Canada and United Kingdom where skilled immigrants are given priority over undocumented and family-based immigrants.
Legal Immigration, Rewarding?
“Most importantly legal immigration has to be rewarding for legal residents and create a shining example for all other immigrants”, remarks Joe Adams. In the United States, all immigration reform for highly skilled immigrants is bundled with reform for undocumented workers. This phenomenon is representative of the apathy of U.S. immigration policy towards highly skilled legal immigrants. Many of them have advanced degrees in science and technology. They have trained and honed their skills while working in U.S. companies.
Currently permanent residency applications for skilled, employment based immigrants are backed 5-8 years. In the interim applicants are unable to change jobs, get promotions or make any major financial decisions. Highly skilled, legal immigrants need immigration reforms that will reduce massive process backlogs, improve processing by government agencies and better the quality of life while the application is pending.
Legal Immigration Myths
Extremist, anti-immigration advocacy groups have aggressively publicized myths about legal, skilled immigrants. Let us expound some of the common myths about employment based immigration.
Myth: Increasing green cards will enable more new immigrants to enter the country
Fact: Most immigrants who are caught in the employment-based immigration backlog have already spent 5-10 years in the United States. They have integrated socially and culturally. Companies have spent thousands of dollars on training these workers.
Myth: Employment based immigrants do not pay taxes and are a social burden
Fact: Employment based immigrants are required by law to file for federal and state tax returns each year. They pay social security taxes, medicare taxes, payroll taxes and all other applicable taxes. Employment based immigrants are not eligible to receive social security benefits unless their permanent residency applications are approved or unless they have worked in the U.S. for several years.
Myth: Employment based immigrants take away local jobs
Fact: Most progressive Americans realize that educated immigrant workers play a crucial role in stimulating the local economy. Highly skilled immigration fills the gaps in availability and makes the U.S. economy competitive and resilient. A recent study concludes that immigrants have fueled the US entrepreneurial economy, starting one in four venture-backed companies since 1990 and two in five in high technology. This is according to a study released by the National Venture Capital Association trade group to the U.S. Congress in November 2006.
Myth: H1B quota increase will result in more green cards
Fact: H1B has a separate quota from green card quotas. Even after an individual has approved security check, labor certification and employment eligibility; a visa number must be available for him to receive a green card. This quota is subject to annual numerical limits. Based on the current annual visa limit, applications are backlogged 6 years.
Future of Legal Immigration
It is presumed that legal immigration process works efficiently and in a clockwork fashion. However when you consider that legal applicants have to wait 5-8 years for a green card; this statement is false. In the current political environment pro and anti immigrant extremism exist side by side. A rational, middle of the road approach is largely missing. Such an approach would prioritize immigration based on the contribution of immigrants towards economic growth, the reduction of job outsourcing and most importantly rewarding those who chose to enter and continue to reside legally in USA.
Americans largely supports legal immigration. This year, the Secure Knowledge, Innovation and Leadership Bill was introduced in Senate and in the House of Representatives. This bill provides the much needed immigration reforms for highly skilled immigrants. However the democrat leadership has not yet declared immigration on their agenda for the first 100 hours of work. Unless congress collectively passes immigration relief for skilled workers, political considerations for the 2008 presidential elections will put this issue on the back burner again.
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ashshef
12-10 03:50 PM
Everywhere they mention spillover...they say quarterly. But they don't really enforce it. :mad:
At least , they improved the bulletin by adding more detailed information as well as an explanation about how it works.
At least , they improved the bulletin by adding more detailed information as well as an explanation about how it works.
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Robert Kumar
03-14 05:51 PM
In the last 1 months, how mcuh time is it taking for just the labor to be cleared. Not the pre-labor work. Just labor.
Thank you,.
Thank you,.
bala50
09-13 04:07 PM
I'm ready to fill the sixth slot . I have contributed to rally before and i will match Milind's next contibution.
Thank you mohitb272, wolfsappi, kanaihya and ravikanthe. All your help and contributions are greatly appreciated.
Details of my $100 contribution are in my signature.
To people who still have their finger on the trigger,
Guys, Are we ready to fire the next round? Believe me you will feel good. The gun is loaded with 5 bullets again.
But wait a minute, someone told me this revolver has six chambers. We can put one extra bullet in this baby.
Would any senior member or previous contributors like to be the guest of honor and help us fire the last bullet?
On a more serious note we still required $10,000 before Sept 18th.
Thank you mohitb272, wolfsappi, kanaihya and ravikanthe. All your help and contributions are greatly appreciated.
Details of my $100 contribution are in my signature.
To people who still have their finger on the trigger,
Guys, Are we ready to fire the next round? Believe me you will feel good. The gun is loaded with 5 bullets again.
But wait a minute, someone told me this revolver has six chambers. We can put one extra bullet in this baby.
Would any senior member or previous contributors like to be the guest of honor and help us fire the last bullet?
On a more serious note we still required $10,000 before Sept 18th.
manugee
09-11 03:26 PM
I managed to get a red-eye back from CA on Monday... so I will see you guys on Tuesday for the rally.
Go IV,
Manish Jain
Go IV,
Manish Jain
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